Jul 16, 2009

Speak on it Thursdays....


So...The Blogspot is under a little reconstruction so please excuse my dear aunt sally ya dig!! That made no sense but whatever!! Oh yea, to comment if you look at the right hand side you will see a number...if nothing has been posted the number will zero...click under that and it says comments...okay...hope that made sense...

Now...On to the GOOD STUFF!! The question of the day is....hmmmm....I am still thinking if I should drop this...but...ahhh...fudge it!!

Dating a freshman?!?!? Do's/Dont's, Why's/Why Not's, Whats your opinion on those who do and is it that big of a deal? Are upperclassman hating??!?! Or are they looking out?!?! hmmm....so many angles like a triangle lol!! Speak on it...

And like I said, to comment look to the right hand side UP TOP and there should be A Number (if nothing has been posted it will say 0) under that it says COMMENTS click and post away!! chea!!!

52 comments:

  1. Aight...I'm goin in. Gonna pop this topic's proverbial cherry, ya digg?

    Aight. Now I find nothing wrong with the concept of dating a freshman. They're new on the block and if she's bad, she's bad, right? Fresh face walking round the campus, all dolled up and what not cuz she's knew and hasn't sunk into the nonchalant attitude some of us older folks have just yet...what else are we supposed to do? Gotta recognize beauty when you see it...and hopefully make it yours before some other dude snatches.

    Now, while it's okay for us older folks to date these younger ones (I'm trying to keep this androgynous so the ladies feel comfortable too), dating a freshman brings up two issues.

    ((If you're a woman, please insert guy/male/etc. wherever I say girl. I'm writing from my perspective. I apologize, ahead of time))

    1 - Can we deal with dating someone of that maturity level?

    Let's be real. These girls are fresh out of highschool (hence, freshman). They probably haven't dealt with the majority of the issues us older dudes have, such as paying bills, working, dealing with...y'know...grown folk stuff. That said, would you be willing to date someone who couldn't converse with you on the same maturity level? I mean...you tryna talk about politics and American society and ish and she wants to talk about...Tiny and Toya or the Powerpuff Girls or something. Could you really deal with that? Bring her into a setting of your mature peers?

    2 - Are you dating her for her or for that pussy?

    I have seen a few instances where I feel the upperclassman isn't dating the girl because he genuinely likes her and would like to have a relationship with her. Instead...he's just in it to hit-and-quit, smash-and-dash, rip-and-dip, ride-and-slide, and any other euphemism for dicking her down and leaving her. Now, while this is all cool and I don't fault anyone for this, you gotta look at the lasting consequences of this action

    Now, unless you let the girl know up front that this was purely platonic and you just wanted to cut, 9/10 times she's gonna cop feelings. Feelings which you'll DESTROY when you just leave her or go D-down one of her homegirls on a whim. What happens to the girl? She grows up from the innocent, naive freshman into the bitter, angry sophomore/junior/senior/supersenior. Now...my brothas, you're only making the game harder for us who don't wanna date down to a freshman and have to deal with the battle-hardened upperclassmen who don't wanna hear the "shit" we have to say.

    Now...I'm only a rising sophomore, so it's still pretty acceptable for me to date a freshman. However, I still ask myself these questions (and, being 100, I'm not the "date her" kinda guy right now). Plus, pertaining to number 2, you never wanna burn bridges...cuz you might wanna cross over them a lil' later down the road, feel me?

    ((might've ranted abit...sue me))

    BlackNSwole out

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  2. I will go in in the morning!

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  3. Damn...(grabs popcorn!!)

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  4. I now wait for responses!!

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  5. i truly believe that if you came into UF 2005 OR before, and you begin to talk/hunch/do anything outside the platonic realms with an incoming freshmen... that is a moral travesty. think about it, when you first reached your milestone of entering college, they were fresh out of middle school (or still in it!)

    scratch that, when you were hunching your first college girl, having that pregnancy scare, these little girls were experiencing their first period. (grotesque, i know, but it gets the point across)

    i have to agree with blackNswole, relationships are also contigent upon maturity levels, and when you are entering college, for the MOST part, you don't have the range of experience as let's say a junior, or a senior, or supersuper senior. this is for males AND females alike. I also have to give blackNswole his props for his second point. if you are known for playing games/scheming/not being serious when it comes to relationsips, don't play games with a freshmen... at that age, you're so impressionable. and if you do play those games, not only is that a poor reflection of your character, but you are also setting yourself up for your bad karma. situations like those are what turns young women into mistrusting, cold, women aka "damaged goodS" as some guys like to call it.

    just my 2 cents...

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  6. Ok, so we’ve had some very valid points presented, and here are my sentiments.

    When it comes down to it, we have two main points to address to answer this question, A. What are your intentions, and B. What are your intentions. Lol. As previously mentioned maturity plays a huge role in anyone you get involved with, but this is doubly true for prospective relationships with freshmen.

    I appreciate black n swole approaching this subject w a unisex perspective, but in all actuality the phenomena is often older dudes trying to get at freshman chicks. Scientifically women mature faster than men, yes there are anomalies, but for the most part older women in college won’t find a freshman dude who can hang with her on the relationship level she wants.

    To the rub.. If you are looking for any semblance of a legitimate relationship you should definitely not try to scoop someone fresh outta OASIS. That is unwise and selfish. Changes are, if you are hell-bent on locking someone down as soon as they step foot on campus you are insecure about yourself. Sprinting into a relationship before the freshman gets an opportunity to experience the college life like you did so joyously for at least a whole year promises to end your proposed relationship. Conversely if you have patience and give the person time to get acclimated, if you two are compatible you could have something beautiful.

    Now if you are looking ti give someone the business, Aaliyah said age ain’t nothin but a number, but that was when she was married to R.Kelly 10 yrs her senior who we found retained his lust for the young and shows his affection by dousing ppl in bodily fluid... I digress. If you are looking for a stage 5 clinger, by all means do you. Just remember most of the people you will be getting involved with will still be disillusioned w the college life they see on tv.

    As for the whole age subject, the vivid picture renee painted may seem daunting for some, but in my opinion once you get outta college, age doesn’t matter. Ask around, no one care. All that matters is you and your partner fulfill the requirements both of you were seeking in a companion.

    All that said, and I know it was a lot, it will come down to maturity level EVERY time. So know thyself, and know what you are getting yourself into.


    Dating freshmen can be precarious, but dating a ‘FRESHMAN’ can be priceless... AYE! Sorry I had to do it, shout out to nemo ;)second time’s the charmer!

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  7. Greetings to all the Upperclass hating women. My name is Dat Dude but you can call me Dude for the sake of today's topic.

    Now, there are many ways to look at this situation but, I will not be as neutral today! So I guess da kid Nemo gon have to Harlem SHAKE for ya boi a few times!

    Old News...

    I am going into my third year here at the University of Florida and honestly the girls that I have come in with are now getting tired. I have seen these chicks for two years and they are either 1) Completely devoured and ran through, 2) Have gained there freshman 15, sophomore 25, and a will be gaining some more pounds by the ending of there junior year and so on and so forth. 3) Have gone into the point of there life where there is no time for a boyfriend. With that being said If I have not gotten at these chicks within the two years I will not and probably wont holla at them now. When the new freshman come in, yes, guys will make moves on them because they are new. It is just like going to another city or school and thinking someone is fine or cute because you do not see them all the time. It happens, whether your 35 or 25 if you have seen the same things for a while then when something new comes around it will be more appealing.

    A Freshmans Intelligence

    Why are yall making it seem like these girls are stupid?!?! These girls know exactly what they are doing. Just like you knew what you were doing when you were in your freshman year of college. Yes, they may not all be as wise as we are as upperclassmen but, how wise are we really!?!?!I am sure some of these girls know and have experienced more things than me in my lifetime. We are putting this light of innocence over them but they are grown. Probably been grown for a few years now!! Do not act like you never snuck out your crib or made the move on an older guy or went to a party to hope to see some dude. The point of the matter is lets not make it seem like these girls are idiots and can not handle themselves.

    Snickers Complex

    Why wait?!?! If I see a chick thats bad I am going to snatch her! Now, my intentions depends on the vibe I get and if I see this is working. And this happens regardless of age! So whether I holla at a senior, freshman, sophomore, you always gotta feel things out. We go off the physical and then learn about there other attributes as one goes along. Honestly, my goal is to get into law school and if I get into Law School and I am still single then I am probably not going to have time to holla at a chick after college. I am sure most of the college students that will read this blog will feel the same exact way!

    Dat Dude Rap-Up (no pun intended)

    Please do not hate the men that are pursuing younger women. Worry about your damn self! You can look out for the Ladies, but honestly there is nothing you can do because some will make wise decisions and some wont. It happens. You in your third fourth years will probably still make mistakes and give up yourself because of what you "thought" about a guy. Yes freshman girls should be mindful of what they do and not make a name for themselves. I will agree to that. And yes they should be mindful of the dudes and chicks that may come at them but, that is not only relative to the freshman class it is relative to life!! And if that level 5 clinger stuff is relative to freshman then that means that its alot of Juniors who are freshman because its some chicks who have been stalkers of dudes and chicks for a long time.


    Moral of it all...These women are now GROWN!

    -THE END

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  8. Yo super if anybody feel you I feel you!! lol!!

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  9. im pissed my whole comment deleted

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  10. okay im going to try this again

    first up black and swole
    I disagree with your comment completely reason being that I'm a freshman at Uf and in 2008 yes high school I bought a brand new 2008 Jetta that I still to this day pay 341.15 for out of MY pocket. Not to mention I have been working since I was thirteen years old and two to three jobs from 15-18. I have been actually managing my mother's bills and money since I was 15 years old and to this day continue to do so. So f you wanna talk about bills I got you... .then as far as the things going on in the world it was harder for us to get into UF then all of you before us so with that being said I'm sure we are informed about worldly events. The actual most intellectual conversation I have had since I have been here was with a freshman....and I do not feel that you can generalize one's cognitive development solely on age, but interests and experience...that is an individual trait not a general! Plus what you may think is intellectual I may think is BS...that is a subjective comment so the goal would not be to find a woman in your age range, but someone with your same interest...so negative

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  11. okay, how can i go about this?

    One: There is nothing wrong with pursuing a freshman. The problem is when you have zero intentions of doing right by this freshmeat, excuse me freshman. If you two connect past the physical and a committed, loving, repsectful and nurturing relationship will come it, do you boo. However, when you step out with a freshman, it's suspect.

    Two: Yes, these freshmen are the "nu-nu". But when they are no longer fresh, what happens to them? Ya'll just throw them away. I was a freshman once. Ya'll upperclassMEN do not have the same persistence and fervor like ya'll used to. I'll be damned if any of you upperclassmen deny that you go extra hard with the freshwomen.

    Three: I don't know if ya'll been told this, but us upperclasswomen are so over you upperclassmen. We already have our sights on the men we'll meet in grad school, law school, pharmacy school, medical school, what have you. A good deal of our male peers are trifling and still in their "I'm not trying to settle down phase". Stop feeling yourselves so much.

    Four: Yes, these freshwomen are grown. They should be able to discern who's real and who's fake. However, they don't know the difference from high school games and college games. I was not thinking or acting the way I did freshmen year, and I've always had a pretty good head on my shoulders. Ya'll know the game you can run on a freshman is different from the game you can run on a junior. That's why ya'll don't even bother with upperclasswomen, there is certain mess we're no longer taking.

    Six: Age is becoming less of an issue. So we shouldn't sweat who's dating who. It's just not a surprise when females date older and males date younger.

    Seven: You dudes and "bad" females. Looks will fade and so will yours.

    btw. SuperKool is making the most sense right now.

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  12. Now Black and swole....
    here we go again. As for your second "point"..... All guys that first approach a girl would be dating them for their "pussy" because of the mere fact that with nothing to go off of when first meeting an individual one would go off of physical attraction.... which is a form of lust....which means your sexually attracted to them.And as for females please note that we ALLOW guys to run game on us. The average college freshman I am more than sure has experienced multiple attempts of the opposite sex and maybe even the same sex try to "hollar"at them..... it is not the guy hurting the girl but the girl hurting herself... after meeting a guy just by the way e approaches you, looks at you, and even in his attempt to pursue you can know what exactly he is after, which means that it is her CHOICE to determine whether or not it is going to go any further . We as females allow to males to run game because it shows effort and a form of flattery, not because we're clueless......So the bitter sophomores, juniors, and seniors it was their personal choice to play stupid and allow the guy to use and it is MOST DEF their choice to allow that to impact future potentially successful relationships...any person male or female alike that one becomes sexually involved or mentally engaged with should not be one that can result if regret whether or not the two of you are together in the near future. sooo....um yea double negative

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  13. Talia you're funny

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  14. Check me out:

    For most of us incoming freshmen, we come with intentions; Plans to change, plans to go wild, and sometimes more less then often plans to keep to ourselves. And when one thinks of a freshmen being pursued or going after an upperclassmen, the first thing that comes to mind is: a female.
    Regardless of age, year, or gender it is all the same. We are sexually appealing to one another. If anything there is to fear or be watchful for is the upperclassmen that thinks that he/she might be playing that freshmen when it is the other way around.

    4,3,2,1 Concept

    Upperclassmen have many flashy benefits that do appeal to freshmen but it doesn't necessarily mean that they have never been exposed to it, we might be looking to use that to our advantage.

    4: Four Wheels
    3: Three Letters for those in sororities or fraternities
    2: Two Numbers Related To Being An Athlete
    1: One House That Many May Have Off-Campus

    Our intentions are most important, we all endevour in relationships for various reasons; sex, compaionship, objects, pleasure of just saying you have someone...

    If an upperclassmen starts to search below themselves its because he/she has an intention, whether it be good or bad. If everyone thought solely about the age of their potential partner no one would be together. If you really look at we choose who we date by first the physical then if we look pass stereotypes(like this one),and what society says then we enter into the final stage of actually talking to that person and hey you might find an intellectual being I guess that an upperclassmen can relate to.

    I mean I know I can hold an pretty decent conversation about "politics and American socitey" if I needed to, I pay bills, I've had two jobs at the same with going to school. There is a generalization that is placed on being a freshmen that we are innocent, unwise, incapable of gaining knowledge in paying bills (apparently), and etc... I can't get over why that would even be that important (bills). Freshmen can experience the same amount of wisdom that came with the 3-4 years it took one upperclassmen.

    Come On I agree with Dude.. Don't be tricked by the name: Freshmen. We (freshmen) are all different and if anyone I would think would understand that is upperclassmen, yu were all one once upon a time.
    If an upperclassmen wants to date a freshmen I don't don't see why not. Like I said looks always come first. Sometimes its the things they might have in common that draw that freshmen to that upperclassmen.

    Okay I'm Done..

    -Becky

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  15. Now onto renee c ......We all know that there is time and a place for everything and to be quite honest your support to your argument is rather weak. Any sensible person knows you can not compare a middle schooler and college freshman to a 20 year old and 25 year old that is ridiculous. Not to mention studies show that women mature at a quicker rate then men so that means a woman should have to settle for a boy because of age I think not. Not to mention a I said earlier maturity is based on experience and environment not age yes, i believe it is nature and nurture. And if course maturity comes with experience but no matter what age one is maturity in a relationship comes with experience as well by knowing and understanding the person. Plus there are a plethora of successful relationships that have large age brackets.

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  16. Well we see there are some eloquent freshman here lol! Hope yall passed them AP exams with all that intelligent talk lol! jk!! no I really do hope yall pass tho!

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  17. Becky are you looking for a roommate lol because you're cool

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  18. yeah, the freshwomen aren't stupid. becky was straight truth.

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  19. Sigh…so I guess I will put in my two cents on this today…
    Speaking as a woman I believe in part of what some have said and totally disagree with others. We all know what it was like to be a freshman and I highly doubt any of us would be willing to call ourselves anything less than intelligent or mature. Yes, some are far more advanced than others due to life experiences but nonetheless we are all grown and make our own decisions. This leads me to say that I definitely think that people have a mind of they’re own. Yes I think that upperclassmen know what they’re doing when they are trying to get at a freshman girl for all the wrong reasons but at the same time that girl is the one allowing him to get to the level he is at!!
    As far as the time limit on trying to get your hands on a new freshman I really think that there is a 3 week grace period! Seriously people let these new comers get use to college life and maintaining school. Lord knows school and dealing with a bunch of dudes tryin to get at you can def be overload!!
    And just one last quick thing that bothered me form Dat Dude is the whole upper class girl statement! I am an upcoming junior who has not gained a single pound since I have been in college and I feel that I still look very presentable! Also I really don’t know why you think us upper class girls are the only ones that get tired!! The only reason it seems that way is because we all have heard it all before and aren’t willing to put up with the games that some boys have created over the years!! Hence why you try the freshman, I do agree with how it was previously stated freshmen are smart individuals but college games and high school games are very different!!

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  20. I don't even know where to begin. Im a female to start off with. Summer B is my first semester here at UF. I, personally, find nothing wrong with an upperclassmen wanting to date a freshman. Yet, i believe that both the male and female should be mature enough to know what they are getting involved in. And, like previously mentioned, we are all grown! So, what you make of that is of your own discretion.

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  21. Now for my take on it if it was not clear in my counter arguments.... I feel that we are all of legal age an of mental maturity to choose our partners. College is where many people meet life partners and should not be limited by age. Just the fact that we are all in the same educational institution speaks volumes about our compatibility.... Not saying that all of the bad ones were weeded out, but we are at least on somewhat of the same level. and like Becky said everyone has their own intentions despite age. So I feel you see something you like go for it and go hard, love is a choice not a feeling and..... if it doesn't work out so be it LIFE GOES ON, whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.... and adversaries shape you...so don't knock them.....and plus 2013 is RAW!!!! GET IN !!!:P

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  22. OK now I'm finished goodnight GOD BLESS ...tight work nemo

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  23. From a female perspective:

    1. I agree with the whole "intentions" idea. It's not the right thing to do to a freshman. However, I feel that, if you are a guy known for your Smash Attacks [w/ Sophmores, Juniors, Seniors, SuperSeniors, Locals...] then Freshman are not to be excluded. These are not middle school kids we're dealin with. They are not oblivious to all the sweet talking and game runnin. Many of us females did just fine as freshmen, calling out a few upperclassmen on their play. I understand that they won't know which guys to look out for, or what venues not to get caught up in. But that's why you make friends and find out. I feel some upperclassmen do hate on freshmen tho, when they start gettin crushes on Richard or Terrell or whoever, but cmon. Why be hater when you know its an ongoing cycle? But at the same time I do feel other upperclassmen are looking out. But if you're going to lookout, become friends with the fresh little ones and teach them the ropes; The do's and donts...

    2. Please don't act like ALL of these incoming freshmen are basic bitches! Just because an upperclassmen spits a few lines at them or pulls the whole "Oh, so you don't remember my name?" line, does not mean that they are going to "fall in love" or fling off their Vicky Secrets in a hot second. We all know freshmen are more susceptible to flirting and usually have an instant crush on some boy they see on the set or walkin to class. If whomever they are flirting with or talkin to wants to pipe and they're down for it, then that's their business. This is not 22 year old men gettin at 7 year old girls. This is not on some pedophile shit.

    3. Dumb basic bitches will be dumb basic bitches. And hoes, will be hoes. If she's naive, then she'll be naive. We can't protect those that try to get booed up like they on Real World or College Hill...

    4. It is true that your maturity levels may not match but be real. How many upperclassmen do you really hear talkin about politics and American government when their caking on the phone? And as far as bills and living on your own away from parents for the first time goes, if you are willing to deal with that, then by all means...

    5. Overall, I don't see a problem with upperclassmen dating freshmen. If the freshmen want to get loose their first year with every slick talker, then thats them. But dont attack the upperclassmen, b/c those incoming freshmen boys run game too. And so do the citizens of the Gainesville community.

    xoxo, Nessa B.
    [nessab04.blogspot.com]

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  24. I mean it really is the truth...

    Okay check me:
    Game is game.
    Men are men.
    Men spit game.
    They all spit the same game.
    High or College.

    It is a lost cause for those freshmen who come with lack of experience then they get played and ran thru.. plain fact. Because they tend to put themselves more out there then ones that come with more real world views. I do agree with Janita, upperclassmen can't say all freshmen are immature and intelligent becuase you kind of downgrade who you once were.

    But yes if a upperclassmen wants to say such things about a freshmen then it is wise to guide then to watch from the sideline. Don't let the upperclassmen take advantage of that young male/female.

    -Becky

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  25. WHOEVER BECKY IS IM REALLY FEELIN THEW WAY YOU THINK......................

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  26. Yo!! this is hilarious!! lmao!!

    GIMME DAT BECKY

    I hope I did this right lol!

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  27. It did not work!! lol! but, it was the becky song lol!

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  28. I would like to start off by saying that I love this topic Nemo!!!

    Now, on the topic, I agree with Becky to a degree; in respects to treating each freshman on an individual basis, we were all there at one point and I would like to believe that I was not stupid. However, I do encourage these young ladies and men to hold off on rushing into a relationship with the first male or female they see, regardless of whether they are upperclassmen, freshmen, have a car/don't, are in a frat, or any other means to judge a person.

    Let us all please remember we are in college and that we have at least four years to create and establish lasting relationships but I think the first year is the time for working on the "you." This is the first time most of these young adults have had from under their parents wings, no matter if they have worked two jobs or not, have been able to party beforehand, or anything else. College is a liberating experience where, especially at UF, you will find people who share the same opinion as you, can argue intelligibly, and can will mold the way you think. Finding the first person to cake with hinders this process because when you are in a relationship you need to think of how your choices will affect your relationship also. So I would add to Becky's statement that a part of maturity that I do not think freshmen have developed yet is their own belief system. How can you be in a relationship if you do not have a proper relationship with yourself? And if this is not the kind of things you are thinking about when you think about this relationship with an upperclassman then should you be in a relationship? Why don't you just call it what it is and say it's friends with benefits but we're going to add a title to keep it pc?

    This will be my second year in school this fall and I can admit that I have changed my opinion a lot during these past few months on what I want out of a relationship and what I can bring to the table. I think as freshman you need to understand that you need to develop your opinions and values, outside of what you have been taught your whole life, before you can begin to truly have a good relationship and that is one of the stages of maturity. I also think that as upperclassmen, if you are truly interested in a freshman you will spend their first few months of college acting as more of a guide and helping them develop their beliefs in more of a "friendship mode" than to try and "cake" because we have once again all been there, ergo we should understand that like the good china you do not just take it out for every occasion. Hence, trying to get with the first freshman you see just because he/she is a dime probably has nothing to do with their mind unless it's in the sexual sense...?

    Those are just my opinions,
    Once again great topic Nemo,
    Cayla

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  29. lol thnx I speak truth. But I think I'm done for now until I see another response.

    Lovin This One Nemo!!!

    "Becky Becky She's So Cool"....

    -Becky

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  30. i just realize i forgot five. whatever. i made my point.

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  31. Nah talia you cant make a good point but do not know how to count lol!! JK!!

    "Gotta be grown to F*** with plies lol!" On this liquor...(song plays in background) *head bops*

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  32. Freshman aren't these ignorant souls that wander onto the UF campus (ok, maybe some of them are). But I can guarantee you there are some upperclassmen who still are "ignant" about a lot of things. You can't generalize a whole population and try to fit them into these neat little stereotypes. When I came in as a freshman, maybe I wasn't as "experienced" as some upperclassmen but I still had the good sense to distinguish between a lame and a real dude. I mean seriously if anyone, Freshman or otherwise, believes that a guy whom upon meeting you, asks you to come over his place so he can "cook for you and ya'll can watch a movie" really wants to WIFE/BOO you up, then you got another thing coming and that's that.

    In SUM, maturity and common sense have nothing to do with age.

    Thank you.

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  33. Hot topic! However, everyone's comments pertain to a situation where the girl is the Freshmen... what if the guy was a Freshmen with an upperclass chick? Do the opinions change??!!?!?

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  34. THE MALE IS NEVA IN THAT SITUATION

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  35. WOMEN WHERE YOU @ ON THAT ONE?

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  36. Okay couldn't stay away..

    Check Me Out:

    It is sooooooo true that age has no factor whatsoever in whom one would date. Plain fact it shouldn't, if you still look at that then you really have that high school mentality brewing in your brain or UF or where ever has a strong hold on what you think.

    I mean don't get me wrong I do think it is important for a freshmen like myself to establish a good rapport during my first year. But dating? seriously I choose who I want to date, why whould I care who is looking?

    Yes the game does change for freshmen guys dating up.. once again a stereotype, it makes an upperclass woman look kind of bad looking to date with a freshmen BUT like I said in the real world outside of college we mate and date people of various ages younger or older.

    All in all this argument will always find age in the center of this old age issue of dating: upperclassmen and freshmen.

    -Becky

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  37. After reading ALL the comments I must say many of you have very valid and concrete points. I am a 2nd year so I just got out of being the "freshmeat" phase I did get the sweet talking and the flirting but like someone mentioned it'll only go as far as you let it, no guy ever tried to take it to far with me bc I had my head on straight. the sad truth is being new and having suddenly all this freedom its easy for freshman to be wowed and think that the guy spitting game is really trying to pursue somthing serious when in fact he is spitting game to 3 other girls. Dating a freshman isn't bad, age is relative, what matters is what you plan on doin with the freshman and if you plan on being a man or a lil boy playin games with her feelings. or his i guess to be fair lol

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  38. The upperclass women are actually quite fond of us (not all just some). They think its cute that we are trying to holla at them and then they let there guard down because they dont assume the threat. It happened to me my freshman year and I damn near fell in love lol!

    Sigh...(Kanye's So Amazing plays in the background)

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  39. No i do not feel the opinion changes in the least because there are various instances where older women like to date younger men. and often times because the upperclassmen feel themselves a little too much they completely forget about chivalry and how to treat a woman..... and the younger man is willing to put in that extra time and effort because he sees she is a more experienced and educated woman and he is in competition with older and i guess wiser men. So i would not knock a female for dating a younger male at all.....Also with the way society is conforming it is very normal to see a guy dating a girl for her benefits whether it be her money, car, status all in the same its power and everyone wants it male and female alike. So once again I feel that if you want it go for it... and if a women finds a younger man who knows how to be more of a gentleman than one her age or older.....of course she should go for it

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  40. OK well I am coming from the women's point of view of dating younger. No it was not a freshman but I am an upperclassWOmen who hopelessly fell for a sophmore :-/. What more can I say but that it was fun! In my opinion between the ages of 18-22 most men have the same mindset. They are just not searching for anything too serious. Neither should us women I am just looking for someone I have a connection with. Ofcourse he must also treat me with the respect that a lady like me deserves. If you can get that right age really doesnt matter cuz I damn sure dont care what others may think.

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  41. Shoot eff all that I love these upperclassMEN yall singing becky, but Im already gettin that BILLY!!!! these dudes aint got that much game!!

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  42. are you serious right now ?????just....just... no

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  43. How to begin...well first off a lot of uz women on here r really being biased towards da men. I mean itz nt their fault dat society haz warped their mind into thinking dat life iz a game and females r their die. Obviously itz a known fact dat the mojority of females du tend to date older guys,now wit dat being said dnt forget dat high school waz js a few months ago, du u really think dat we haven't been dabbling inda college pool of men b4 lol?BE REAL! Becky iz rite, men are men and da game never really switches gear no matter how many years itz been,it js been more modernized.

    It iz a known fact dat female du mature quicker den male, bt datz js da sex wise, we're leaving out very vital issues, nationality, religion and RACE! I learned 2day dat out of the 50,000+ population we have, 7.9% are black, 14% are hispanic, and da remainding 78.1% are divided amongst caucasions and others. There are only 4,000 plus black ppl on diz campus and i think itz safe to say, none of us are perfect!

    Us as women du need to learn how to respect ourselves and try living the church life first then the college life next, it makes things A LOT easier!

    Both men and women have played da game of fools b4 and are still duin so now, da only difference iz itz more "acceptable" in a males lyf and when i female gets called out on in, they are automatically labled da shone, ross, slut or any other downgrading ignorant inner-city trash words one can think of.Women tend to handle their feelings or hurt more openly whereas men keep them bottled up inside til they can displace it on da nx female.once they ran thru anyone dey can get in their level, dey move on to "freshmeat". Maybe you all should js take group therapy if datz da case!

    Wat we all need to realize iz dat diz game iz lyk Jumanji, it isn't gonna stop until the person who started it accomplishes hiz challenge.Inda mean time, live life 2da fullest cuz u neva no when itz gonna get cut short, if dat means u wanna indulge in sexual endeavors az a freshman den hey, datz u!bt an outsider can't gerneralize one catagory from one person,az it waz stated b4 me, WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT!i am a freshman and i waz lucky to have been introduced 2da 1st Assembly of God church b4 the ruckess of fall semester can start and i really become just another statistic.

    We're all grown now so start acting lyk it, i think ppl tend to forget that the word "dice" iz plural fa "die".

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  44. lol wow...[Far From Young]

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  45. Damn...I almost feel like I got tried by Pissed(Tisha, but it's cool! This is all for the sake of intelligent conversation and I opened myself up for criticism by being the first to go in. No E-gooning over here!

    But back to the issue...

    I can't even lie. I'm throwing up the white flag. I surrender. I generalized horribly, lumped all of you freshman women (not girls) into the same category, and proceeded to run my mouth...and ya'll promptly shut me up. Props. Beauty and Intelligence are a BAD combination...you and Becky should holla at me sometime! (I kid)

    Anyways...Extremely valid points have been made. We're all grown and should treat each others as such. I was being hyperbolic with my mention of "powerpuff girls and politics" cuz I damn sure don't talk about politics too often and am more likely to talk about some foolery I just watched on TV. Tisha's also right about the bills thing. I'm just gettin a steady job, but you've been holding things down for years, so I can't even throw that at you. Kudos. So...I guess my maturity point has been made moot.

    I still think my second point bears some weight though. I feel as if people need to start keeping it real with one another. It's a ploy I've added to my own personal "smash tactics" and I can't say that it doesn't bear reward...but I digress. I feel as long as everyone lays out their plans early on in the relationship i.e. "baby I'm not looking for a relationship." instead of using deception i.e. "oh you make me feel so special." and "I see myself being with you." if all you want is a cutty buddy, then everything's cool and no one can really walk away with their feelings hurt.

    On the subject of older women dating down...

    aight...lemme rap some personal shit right now...

    As a freshmore (not a freshman, but not a sophomore just yet) I am attracted to WOMEN. Beautiful, intelligent women with their shit together, professional swag, etc. Now...these women are more than likely looking for a MAN to approach them. As a freshman dude with

    No Car
    No Job
    No REAL WORLD swag

    It's -kinda- intimidating to try and approach these girls out of the blue. Feel like you gotta come more than correct with these types of women. What I'm getting at is...Upperclass women...please don't be afraid to make the first move on us younger dudes! I promise we'll treat ya right!

    ((I'm a damn fool, I know))

    Anyways...I'm out. Come holla at ya boy at Taco Bell in the Reitz. I'll be working register from 7:30 til' closing.

    BlackNSwole out!

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  46. props to nemo fa setting diz site up cuz i feel it really gave a chance fa every1 to open up their mind and nt their pants towards woman and or men...bt mostly women lol. nite nite to all (last anonymous chiick aka scooby. oh and for those who didn't quite understand my die symbolism, it basically js means they alwayz cum in pairs ie. a man and a woman.love yourself and one another.

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  47. lol at pissed(tisha), only one part of my argument was "weak" and i don't think there was a fallacy in my OPINION, i just didn't feel the need to elaborate.

    i know that females mature faster than men, it's one of those basic facts that everyone knows i.e. 2+2=4. that just doesn't change my mind about when I see dudes who entered in college the same year as me, who are KNOWN for scheming on women, start pursuing a non-platonic relationship with a freshmen... it makes me questions their intentions.

    i don't think all freshmen are naive, there are just naive adults, PERIOD, but i do think that freshmen haven't experienced the game like how some sophmores, juniors, and seniors have.


    and dagnabbit, this website deleted my comment about how when we graduate, these sort of age constraints don't necessarily matter but when you have these labels, especially in a society with such a hierarchy associated with your age/classification, a supersupersuper senior guy who's been here for 6 years talking to a barely legal freshmen is MUCH different from a 26 year old women dating a 32 year old man.

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  48. Well I think age is nothing but a number.. it's all in how they feel towards each other and if they can handle a relationship at all.. Do what makes you happy all the ther stuff WILL fall into place if the relationship is right..

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